Des Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Thanks Smarttec, I just got the upgrade pre-order email. After I log in to the portal the only options are Maxwell 5 for 3DS Max, Rhinoceros, Sketchup and Studio. If this is all they are offering regarding plugins, then I am extremely disappointed. I really hope the limited amount of plugin versions shown is because it's still early days. I'm writing an email to them now so come on guys, we need to get together to pressure them for a FormZ plugin! I realise that NextLimit outsourced the FormZ plugin (Pylon) but we need Maxwell for FormZ. Lets do this.. Des Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 hi Des, the same Disappointment here :-( I just wrote an e-mail to next limit in terms of the missing formZ plug in. Des 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Des, me too!! It’s disappointing... i need Maxwell too. Des 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 My email to Next Limit sent!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkcn Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 We have just received the pre-order form to update to Maxwell 5. But, unfortunately, when we connect us to our account, there is no FormZ option to do it😟 We wrote to Next Limit, and their answer is: " " Hello Patrick, Thank you very much for contacting us. We are now evaluating the development of a new Form Z plugin for Maxwell 5 depending on the demand we have for it. Kind regards " So, everyone is concerning to have a FormZ plugin development by Next Limit, must send a message to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Hi All, In case I was not clear before: the decision to not support a formZ plugin for Maxwell 5 was made solely by Next Limit- not by me. I am troubled by this development as well. I have been an active part of this community for many years, and don't want any bad feelings headed my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Quote mojo wrote: Hi Fernando, does that also mean formZ support ? I have to know before i buy the upgrade! best Regards, mojo To tell the truth, the plugin for FormZ is the last on the list. We have to evaluate the demand and check if it's worth it. We'll try to keep it alive, but if it's not worthwhile, we could drop it. So, I cannot say "yes" nor "no" yet. I'll try to keep you informed. Kind regards, Fernando i can't believe it 😪 please formZ, you have to create something similar to "vray for formZ" and take over the development of the plug-in, like "maxwell 5 for formZ". I'm sure it would be worth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 What a disappointment!! pfff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 I have reached out to Maxwell team to voice my support for ongoing Z plug-in development. I also would like to float an idea and see what the community thinks: I have been a Z Family Plan member for 20+ years and have never questioned its value. Awesome phone support when needed and upgrades included. I propose a Z-Maxwell family plan. I would be more than willing to pay additional dollars to my Family Plan if I knew they were going directly to maintaining support and compatibility with Maxwell. Yes, a lot of details to resolve... but any interest? How many users would spend an additional $25 to $100 a year to ensure continued support? Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, pylon said: Hi All, In case I was not clear before: the decision to not support a formZ plugin for Maxwell 5 was made solely by Next Limit- not by me. I am troubled by this development as well. I have been an active part of this community for many years, and don't want any bad feelings headed my way. Hello Ben, It is clear to me, and I hope to others, you played no part in this. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flakie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I went on to the portal and form-z is not an option for Maxwell 5. Please try to workout the plug in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagix Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Gary said: I have reached out to Maxwell team to voice my support for ongoing Z plug-in development. I also would like to float an idea and see what the community thinks: I have been a Z Family Plan member for 20+ years and have never questioned its value. Awesome phone support when needed and upgrades included. I propose a Z-Maxwell family plan. I would be more than willing to pay additional dollars to my Family Plan if I knew they were going directly to maintaining support and compatibility with Maxwell. Yes, a lot of details to resolve... but any interest? How many users would spend an additional $25 to $100 a year to ensure continued support? Gary I would. $100+, sure. It’s way better than not having to switch the modelling and/or renderer that I prefer and have years of experience with. What is the approximate time/cost involved in updating and maintaining the plugin - does anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I'm not a family plan member, but I'd become one and pay the extra for the continued support of Maxwell. It's a good idea Gary. Des Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarttec Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Des said: Thanks Smarttec, I just got the upgrade pre-order email. After I log in to the portal the only options are Maxwell 5 for 3DS Max, Rhinoceros, Sketchup and Studio. If this is all they are offering regarding plugins, then I am extremely disappointed. I really hope the limited amount of plugin versions shown is because it's still early days. I'm writing an email to them now so come on guys, we need to get together to pressure them for a FormZ plugin! I realise that NextLimit outsourced the FormZ plugin (Pylon) but we need Maxwell for FormZ. Lets do this.. Des I have just requested this specific information in regard to formZ from Nextlimit for Maxwell 5 & formZ 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarttec Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Imagix said: I would. $100+, sure. It’s way better than not having to switch the modelling and/or renderer that I prefer and have years of experience with. What is the approximate time/cost involved in updating and maintaining the plugin - does anyone know? All I know is the Maxwell Render5 PRE Release offer is $276 (NL) or $316 (Floating) per individual license. What we are trying to determine is all the additional features ( still being released ) but we know that the announced features so far are big support for better GPU materials etc. Also waiting on confirmation of formZ plugin support. Soon as know I'll try and update. But plugins a separate development cost which is generally funded by sales and has another cost, probably that plugin developer(?) gets a share of the sale. By the Maxwell has an Annual Support Plan too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Des said: I'm not a family plan member, but I'd become one and pay the extra for the continued support of Maxwell. It's a good idea Gary. Des +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipo Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I have used maxwell since inception but not once have I used it within fz....always through studio, which is far superior for scene setup Hopefully we can at least still export an mxs using the the existing plugin ? or the long route.... FZ 9 to FZ 8 to maxwell Personally I don't hold out much hope for a new plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, pipo said: I have used maxwell since inception but not once have I used it within fz....always through studio, which is far superior for scene setup Hopefully we can at least still export an mxs using the the existing plugin ? or the long route.... FZ 9 to FZ 8 to maxwell Personally I don't hold out much hope for a new plugin Yes, we all have our own workflows Pipo and I use Studio quite a lot myself, but most of the time I use it through the plugin. I find manipulating the views, model etc. to be not as intuitive as being inside FormZ. But with saying that, at least it's a solution. I asked a similar question about going from the V4 plugin to V5 studio on the Maxwell forum but no reply yet. Rather than being defeatist I think we should push for a plugin whether through NextLimit or Autodessys as per Garys idea. Des Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I put all my hopes in this case on autodessys, because it should be in their very own and essential interest that there will be a plug-in with a multi-gpu software. The best modeling software is worth nothing if you can not generate a contemporary, photorealistic output from it. and relying only on vray would be very poor, any other software such as cinema4d, sketchup, rhino, 3dsmax, maya, .... has a lot more of plug-ins on offer. Furthermore, many would certainly not switch to the new formZ version, because they need a working maxwell plugin, which is possible today only with formZ v8 and maxwell v4. Des 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieB Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I also sent a message to Next Limit via Facebook. I have no reason to purchase the upgrade if they can't continue supporting Form Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagix Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Dont forget to drop NL a line on their forum, if you haven't already... https://forum.maxwellrender.com/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=45454 The last email from NL (October 23.) says "*Form Z development is still under revision.", so there should be a good chance, if we let them know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Imagix said: Dont forget to drop NL a line on their forum, if you haven't already... https://forum.maxwellrender.com/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=45454 The last email from NL (October 23.) says "*Form Z development is still under revision.", so there should be a good chance, if we let them know. Yes, I noticed that myself so maybe........ The features so far are; Multi-GPU Additive Materials in GPU Cloud GPU Fire V-Ray Converter One more feature to go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernieB Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 It's nice that they mentioned Form Z's status but what's the time table between the final statement and the release date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Maxwell just announced the other new feature: Light Groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarttec Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Come on guys we need your help to get NextLimit to respond and develop (co-develop) the future Maxwell 5 plugin for formZ9 at this stage on the Maxwell forum there are only '15' requests - that will have to be more than '100' to get any effect. and change their thinking. There must be more than 15 people using Maxwell or who want it... If your not already on the Maxwell forum - 'Join' https://forum.maxwellrender.com/index.php and add your support Maxwell 5 is huge advancement now incorporating the latest nVidia GPU acceleration for 'Fire' - rendering - additive materials and converts V-Ray scene files with more still to come - make it happen as well for formZ Rob Des 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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