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  3. SJD

    Learning Form Z 9

    btw, even though the videos lean heavily towards working in 3D shaded mode it is just as easy to revert back to working in wireframe and traditional orthogonal views if that's what you're used too. I find I switch between them a lot depending on what I'm modelling
  4. SJD

    Learning Form Z 9

    Hi did something similar moving from 6.7 to 8.6 about 4 months ago. Unfortunately there are hardly any up to date videos on the website (as has already been discussed) but it is well worth watching the migration videos from V7 onwards (on FormZ website/YouTube). I have been able to get up to speed by watching them (over and over...) There's lots of useful stuff in them that will help you start to make sense of the overhauled UI and they introduce you to working in 3D and lots of other features that will help you with workflow. The Evan Troxel videos look great but you don't need to spend $300 to start using FZ effectively
  5. allanjl

    Learning Form Z 9

    I remember seeing some of those videos and they excellent. I think for me, the biggest difference from 6.7.3 to 9 is the fact that in v.9 FormZ is really meant to be worked on in shaded mode. It's far more graphically oriented than 6.7.3. Watch the videos from Evan Troxel. They will be very helpful.
  6. TwoSheaStl

    Learning Form Z 9

    So I'm one of those people still using FZ 6.7.3. I just downloaded the newest FZ Pro trial and it's completely different and I'm lost. What is the best way to learn the new FZ? Has anyone used the "form·Z Fundamentals Video Training Course by Evan Troxel"? Did it work for you? Thank you!
  7. SJD

    what's new webinar

    very nice setz I hadn't thought of creating a cage in Modo and bringing into FZ, sounds interesting. I'd love to have seen the finished CNC'd model 😎
  8. Des

    what's new webinar

    Woah! Incredible model that Setz!
  9. setz

    what's new webinar

    Modo and FZ are great companions. I use modo for complicated organic subdivision cage modeling (because it has really good soft selection tools) and then bring the object into FZ where I convert to subdivision and then convert into nurbs. Works really well at creating super complicated organic nurbs shapes that can then be further worked on in FZ with booles etc. Many parts of the mech were done this way (some are pure FZ hard surface modeling.) The parts in this model ended up as separate nurbs solids exports for CNC machining.
  10. Alan Cooper

    manual project backup trigger via hotkey

    There is an extension in the Lab File category for incremental save which gives you control of when you save, with a keyboard shortcut of your choice. I use it all the time and prefer the manual control for incremental save as. FormZpro 8.6 Sorry, I misread the original post. Personally, incremental file name (number) works for me.
  11. Alan Cooper

    what's new webinar

    Another video showing organising a piece of furniture in FormZ for orderly construction. Plus some other tips.
  12. ¢hris £und

    manual project backup trigger via hotkey

    You should be able to use the key shortcuts to "Save" and "Save a Copy as". Or am I misinterpreting your request? ¢£
  13. Quick update, found the related page. But they do mention it is no longer supported on the ipad. http://algorithmicbotany.org/papers/TreeSketch.SBM2012.html
  14. Here is what I dug up for this... doesn't look to be for iPad any longer. Or at least, I don't see any mention of it. http://algorithmicbotany.org ¢£
  15. SJD

    what's new webinar

    cheers Chris understood - as mentioned, I guess there are many uses for FormZ and perhaps this is why it has not really found success or popularity in any one field. Maybe if it refined it's toolsets and honed in on certain industries it might have a brighter future going forward. Personally I'm looking to advance in pure visualisation at the highest level I can (mainly for advertising) so I won't have too much need for manufacturing or engineering. I guess Modo is perfect for that. That said, FZ is still my weapon of choice for my day job 😎
  16. ¢hris £und

    what's new webinar

    Doh! Sorry for the misinterpretation! Yes, I agree with the last sentiment! Too, it has to do a lot with familiarity. Some people are extremely capable and efficient with hard-side modeling in Modo because they never knew better. And they will always beat somebody like me simply because I already knew formZ by 10 years roughly by the time I attempted Modo. Regardless, they are both great tools. I just think each leans heavily in the direction they want to. And justifyingly so. ¢£
  17. Alan Cooper

    what's new webinar

    Thanks Chris, I was only disappointed that SJD hadn't produced the Audi models, but reading more carefully there was no suggestion of it. I was sort of joking. I think you sense when you have the right program for the job because you feel a high degree of productivity, and I do feel that with FZ. By the way, I know I should but don't even use nurbs, I did try a few times but I learn slowly and never got past the probably not-very-high pain-barrier. One day I will persevere and get through it.
  18. ¢hris £und

    Forum User Numbers ?

    CJ, not sure about the numbers, but yes you can message other users'. If you go into the users' profile, you can message them from there. ¢£
  19. Alan Cooper

    what's new webinar

    Thanks Chris, sounds like you have reassured me I still have, in FormZ, the best program for designing fairly simple furniture. It is way ahead of Sketchup, I know that because that is what I used previously, and Turbocad before that.
  20. ¢hris £und

    what's new webinar

    Alan, I still don't think that there would be anything to be disappointed about. To do hard-side modeling in Modo really takes a lot of extra effort. And even then, is only for visualization. Can't really create tool paths with its output. from formZ, you can. On the other hand, as mentioned above, its visualization capabilities are gorgeous! ¢£
  21. ¢hris £und

    what's new webinar

    SJD. I suppose it depends on the intent of modeling. For me, my intent is for the purpose of manufacturing and or construction. While I have done numerous hard-side models in Modo, I think formZ is far faster and efficient to do so. You always have to deliberately put in extra geometry to keep things flat. My preferred methods of modeling are SDS and NURBS. Modo definitely is better for SDS but doesn't even attempt NURBS. If I want to do a Character these days, I will undoubtedly use Modo. Though, I have done plenty of character modeling in formZ as well. If I want something more precise, fZ All the way! Sometimes I use a mix. I will Rough a shape out in Modo, then bring it into fZ and convert to NURBS for that manufacturability. While it is true that Modo is capable enough for 3D printing, it isn't capable enough for other CNC type construction. Visually, the SDS smoothing algorithm is phenomenal. but for any kind of output, including 3D printing, it is reduced to a polymesh. Not unlike a poly-DXF. Another aspect is, with formZ, it has a ways to go to catch up to Modo in terms of SDS and native rendering/surfacing and overall visualization. It remains that it has the capability to do so. I think it would be much harder for Modo to attain the manufacturability of formZ. If on the other hand, your intent is merely and solely for visualization, yea, Modo is hard to beat. Oh, and its interface is pretty great too. ¢£
  22. Alan Cooper

    what's new webinar

    I'm disappointed now. Maybe AD will lower its aim a little and concentrate on an affordable (and faster) contender against Sketchup, and with the continued perpetual licence option. I doubt they will take on Modo head-on for a while but I would love to be proved wrong.
  23. SJD

    what's new webinar

    Hi Alan this is not my work (but maybe one day 😁)
  24. Dear Des, Bo & Setz, Many thanks for the great pointers. I likely wouldn't be using FDM printing but more likely an SLA flavour so overhang wouldn't be a problem. @Setz many thanks for the kind offer. I think I first need to play around a bit myself. @Bo I like the aesthetic of your trees. They are unmistakenly trees even though they do not have foliage.
  25. Alan Cooper

    what's new webinar

    SJD, I know you were addressing this to Chris, but hey, very good work indeed! As for me, I will stick with what I know and have already invested in, but I get your point. Please would you post the wire-frames, just because they would be interesting to look at.
  26. SJD

    what's new webinar

    Hi Chris, I'm curious as to where you think FZ really shines? feel free to delete this post but here are a few examples of the kind of work I'm aspiring to in Modo and as a 3D artist - I have never seen anything of this standard produced in FormZ. As mentioned before, I don't think it's because it's not capable but mainly because many users wouldn't know where to start based on existing tutorials. I have only been using Modo for a short while but already I can see some approaches as to how I would tackle these projects because of the videos available. I wouldn't have a clue using FormZ. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me - I will carry on using FZ for my bread and butter work and delve further into Modo for the advanced stuff. I just think it's a pity that FormZ is unlikely to ever make the impact it probably deserves to modelled and rendered in Modo (credits: Richard Yot, Bart Van Doornik, Tharso77)
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