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  3. I'm PC based now, but my first FormZ dabbling was on a Mac. Way back in '94 ...I remained on Mac until around 2005, then went PC. Over the years I've worked freelance for long periods... All the studios I've freelanced using FormZ have been Mac based. So, at least in the 'Design Consultancy' market, you would lose a significant market if you dropped Mac. Though it may often seem like it, not all industries are PC based.
  4. FormZ's "problem" is that basic modeling is so enjoyable. This is addictive. This is not always the case when proceeding to a more complex project. A variety of small bugs appear here and there. I use Rhino 7 and Form Z in the concept phase. Form Z is so fast that in a few minutes I can get everything I need for the concept phase! Rhino and Grasshopper are essential for non-destructive modelling. I hope ADS adds a non-destructive Boolean method to the program. It doesn’t have to be perfect and perform all situations. As long as the basic functions work. This will make FormZ more popular.
  5. This assumption is simply not true. Over 95% of the form•Z code base is platform independent and we develop and test on all platforms simultaneously (i.e. not “ported”). The platform dependent code is nearly all related to interface. The file translators are over 99% platform independent. Developing for multiple platforms actually makes the code better as the various development and testing tools can identify different areas for improvement in efficiency and stability. We have no plans to drop macOS (or Windows). CUDA and RTX are great technologies for rendering performance, but offer no improvement to the linear double precision nature of modeling operations. We are also disappointed that Nvida is no longer supported on macOS, however the CPU rendering on macOS with V-Ray is very good and handles large models with ease. Performance alone is not the only reason to choose V-Ray as it offers excellent rendering features as well (not all of which are available in RTX rendering).
  6. I first came across FormZ when it was making the transition to V7. For me, it was Sketchup for grownups. I've been sticking around (even paying for the family plan( except the last time they went a whole year without a version update)). Twinmotion and all that other stuff is cute, but how about addressing the engine and transmission problems with the car rather than trying to sell me on CarPlay. Foundation comes before drapes not the other way around!
  7. I think the reason it isn't popular is a marketing issue. The v9 UI definitely needs to become more stable. It is still a work in progress. More consistent updates would also help. Once a year like other software would be great. However, marketing is more the issue IMHO. There are many popular things that aren't really that good, case in point: SketchUp and since I'm on that train - Microsoft Windows! I agree with everyone that I don't know why there isn't aggressive marketing, social media, student/university training, youtube tutorials (just short 1-5 minutes each), instagram, a much simpler user gallery on the website, etc. Maybe once v9 is fully stable?
  8. If Mac is dropped I would also drop FormZ. The LAST thing FormZ should do is pander to an utterly inferior OS. All the savings from a faster GPU would be wasted dealing with windows. Especially once the new iMac and MacPro's running M chips are released! I willing to bet FormZ's users are more Mac based than your 90/10 split. I can't take seriously everyone whining about the look of the UI who runs Windows.
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  10. AsOne

    Palette Window Workaround

    For single monitor use I keep a bank of minimized palettes at the top of my modeling window and keep the Tool Options + Inspector at the top of the right side dock :
  11. kim

    Palette Window Workaround

    Hi Snow, I used Sidecar yesterday for the palettes and it works pretty well. But I make notes on my iPad while working so need to use the old 2nd monitor.
  12. i'm fairly certain formZ is primarily written on the mac (from it's conception!) and then ported (probably not the correct term) to windows. sooo to improve efficiency between versions, it's the opposite of what you're positing lol
  13. Soooo, if they did not have to develop for the Mac, they would have functioning 2d capabilities, components would have been fully fleshed out by now and on and on (ten years). Just keep pandering. What happened to regular webinars? Why aren't the tutorials updated to match the current version of the software? Why can't I download a current version of the pdf for the software? I guess Mac development is to blame for all of this! This is coming from someone how loves this software and wants it to succeed. Pandering is not going to save your favorite software, but it most certainly will aid in its demise. I keep hearing about this Capitalist(business) and Market(consumer) relationship.
  14. I agree completely, but man are you going to get some flak for saying this. Apple products continue their cult like following in spite of everything.
  15. In terms of AutoDesSys' products what keeps formZ competitive in the rendering arena is their V-Ray plug-in. Interestingly what makes V-Ray powerful is it's support for NVIDIA - CUDA and RTX, and neither of these technologies is available on the Mac. PC's are 90% of the market, Macs are 10%. As long as AutoDesSys continues to support the Mac it means every time they write code they have to write it twice, and test it twice, and ensure cross platform compatibility of the file formats. So, it stands to reason that formZ could innovate twice as fast if their software engineering effort was cut by 50%. Considering advanced rendering technologies are only available on Windows it is clearly the platform that must survive. As I said, you won't like to hear this, but the truth is that if you want formZ to innovate faster then dropping support for the Mac would go a long way to accomplishing this goal.
  16. Mike_Concentric

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    The peasant that does not hold his lord accountable only solidifies his status as peasant! I've seen this same type of pandering on the PowerCADD forum; just look at the results!
  17. Mike_Concentric

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    This plus the ability to produce solid 2d documentation is the potential that I saw and have been sticking around for.
  18. valthewu

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    Rhino is equally priced, but anyway: ok, I'll try to be positive: There is a niche for form•Z in the future, I do not have a doubt about that! The viewport itself feels responsive, intuitive, the display options are great, it seems light and something about it does feel positively retro (being not to complicated and straightforward). I just think it needs a certain push forward, and inspirations for that should come from (new) users as well.
  19. R2D2

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    The issue is this dialog that I guess many longtime users have experienced; Script: Actor 1: „What 3D Software are you using“ Grumpy old man: „FormZ“ „Oh, what’s this ?“ „It’s software I can do a lot of cool stuff with; like ….this…that…also this …and even that too, plus this…., and… „(Continues) „WTF - awesome - why didn’t´I even know about FormZ?“
  20. I chose FormZ many years ago because it was on the mac and thought it was the best out of a pile of other software I had worked on. Guess what? I would still choose FormZ over the rest even with it's quirks and shortcomings. I continue to make a living from it as my main package and would recommend it to anyone who wants to get into the 3d modelling business. I don't have most of the issues others have such as crashing and it's not because I'm an IT expert, 'cos I'm not. In my long time experience, I have found crashing to be caused from imported bad geometry and the such. Bad imported geometry is not necessarily caused by the software it was created on but mostly the creator. I agree that the interface needs some work in FormZ, mainly pallets arrangement etc., but I actually like the look and feel/icons etc., call me what you want. I'm actually excited about the dark mode in the next iteration. valthewu, I think you think you're just trying to help but tbh I think you are just making this forum a depressing place (sorry, most of your 10 posts have been negative). We'd all love to see FormZ doing well and competing with the big boys especially since we've invested in Fz (Just to point out FormZPro is a LOT less expensive than other software it's being compared to on this forum, I mean C4D is $3500, Max $1545 per year and without add ons!, Revit $2310 per year, SU $695 but isn't a patch on Fz). But I think ADS has done remarkably well considering who they compete with. I think the future is brighter for FormZ with the Twinmotion integration (along with the existing Vray & Maxwell). Everyones opinion is important here, but lets be more positive about FormZ, it has a hell of a lot more positives than negatives. Lets do more of sharing 3d modelling knowledge, WIPS etc. (if I was considering Fz as a new user, I wouldn't buy it based on all the moaning about it here which obviously doesn't help marketing). ADS have given us this forum for our own benefit to learn etc., not as a rooftop to shout from. Dezzz 😉
  21. valthewu

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    You are addressing all the problems here, but you do not seem to get the whole picture: "obviously listening" = "I do not know for sure, but it seems so." (bad communication from ADS) "this interface issue": this is a mayor issue in my opinion: even the long time users do not understand the problem, maybe just because they are long time users. "rock solid program": I would not exclude all those small errors from quality check only because crashing all the time is even more annoying. "Not more bells and whistles or a pretty interface." Form follows function! We should know that and ADS should know as well! I never said I just demand a prettier UI!
  22. valthewu

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    To second this, look at that list, sort it by release date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer-aided_design_software There are other errors in that list, but no one seems to care anyway. I can think of no reason anyone at autodessys spending half an hour at wikipedia to correct something like that. But this non effort policy is all over the place! Following is a short summary of my observations (mac based) on the rise: blender, Rhino, Bricscad, shapr3d, in 2d: all from affinity (in general: dedicated and active user user base, fast development, transparent as possible, first they copy, then they surpass competitors) steady: Cinema4d, Vectorworks, Archicad, maya, Houdini (loyal user base, steady development, good marketing, open communication) declining in significance: form•z, lightwave, cobalt, powercadd, turbocad (and many other small companies) (slow development, no recognisable future goals set, no transparency, rest on the laurels of the past) out of competition (in their own view): Autodesks products (the Microsoft of CAD, there's is an open letter going around the world), Sketchup, in 2d: adobe in general (these are only around anymore to make money out of their standards, as intransparent as possible, but heavily cloud- and paying plan dependent) This is the grave of any software development. form•z will not fall into that category, because they did not establish any standard. i am sure, loyal users will come out again with something like " you can set the palettes right for your personal taste, read the manual, other software is also flawed, you can call support, I do not mind about some icons, there is always version XY to fall back, etc etc..." It is embarrassing! Don't you want more new users of your "trusted software"? Does not sound like it! The goal should be set: als easy as Sketchup, as precise and versatile as rhino, as customisable as cinema4d, all that communicated as transparent as blender!
  23. snow

    Palette Window Workaround

    I haven't tried this, but if you're on a Mac you might be able to try Sidecar (if you have a spare iPad nearby) instead of purchasing a separate monitor. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380
  24. kim

    Palette Window Workaround

    Hi Andrew, Yup, I have resisted the dual monitor use for years but I think it is time to bite the bullet. Thanks.
  25. Andrew West

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    I have been equally as nervous for years now. But somehow this software seems to keep slowly developing a little at a time. For those of us that used it from the beginning we experienced a lot of activity and interaction that came fairly rapidly. Then things changed for a while. Now it seems like things come in fits and starts with long periods of inactivity perceived on our part. It should be noted that their latest addition of Twin Motion and Unreal are a major step toward keeping Form.z relevant in today's world. They are obviously listening to our requests and I am sure they are working on this interface issue. It just might not be their top priority for now. Personally, for me it is more important to have a rock solid program (which includes these issues) and the latest rendering engine so that I can keep my work relevant and competitive. Not more bells and whistles or a pretty interface. Those are the things that I convey to ADS, for now. As long as I can get my work done in an efficient manner I am willing to be patient. However, I am also not naive, so I do work on other programs just so that I can switch over if need be, which happens now from time to time as I use more outside assets in my work.
  26. Mike_Concentric

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    My favorite 2d cad package (PowerCADD) already seems to be on its way out and FormZ is making me nervous, very nervous!
  27. Mike_Concentric

    Why form•z is not popular any more:

    This is my biggest fear!
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