Smarttec

Cinema 4D and formZ are completely different tools and although the Cinema4D modeler is very capable for many things - at it's core C4D is a 3D motion graphics tool - formZ is a complete accurate 3D modeler.

I take your point the VRay 5 is a huge improvement over 3.6 as you say even for CPU. I have had the opportunity lately to benchmark Corona Render ( which is a CPU only renderer = Chaos Labs ) vs Redshift (nvidia RTX) and even the standard Cinema 4D renderer on the same file for a hi-res 4K image Redshift beat Corona (marginally 2m:55 vs 3m:24 ) std HDRI C4D renderer was 35m: + ( The Corona ran on i7 4 core/ 32GB and the Redshift on same with RTX 2070-8G ) The interesting part is that Redshift is ported to run on Metal and a standard MacBook PRO M1 8/8 core 16 core neural engine - was under 6m My point is Apple, now is getting people to port to Metal ( Redshift & Octane so far ) and it is fast on their new M1 chips. Apple and Metal will be competing hard in the new VR/AR space. I'm interested if Metal and the new Mac's will be used by the games style engines Unreal Engine & Unity as their rendering is now very competitive against all. My hope is that V-Ray see's the opportunity with Metal and the new Apple M1 chip - I hope you're wrong about it being unlikely. Rob

All the speed improvements are coming from GPU advancements from NVIDIA and the amazing new RTX 2070+ and particularly 3xxx series as VRAY only supports this path so far. Apple has gone down the 'Metal' path and implemented some amazing results from their new Apple M1 series CPU/GPU with Neural Engine and they are fast ( very fast ) but so far only only supported by Redshift & Octane and NOT VRAY - hope that changes. Oh - and the other issue is that Apple also requires you to use Mac OS11.2+ ( Big Sur ) Let's hope we see Vray supporting Apple 'Metal' soon. Rob

I think you may find a problem after Mojave - as everything after it is 64bit only and I think the WIBU installer was only 32bit - I personally have dumped my dongle and v6.7.3 years ago. All I know is the latest formZ is v9.1 or v9.2 beta for Vray 5

Looking forward to checking this v5 implementation

But remember RTX series (Turing) supports Realtime Ray tracing which is probably in the new V-Ray 5

by the way "nervy" is V-Ray

absolutely! - the best are the new nvidia RTX 3090 cards and will make nervy fly - only caveat is that if you have a Mac forget it!

Are you surprised formZ 8 is 7 year old technology - MacOSX 10.13 is 4 years old technology - formZ 9.1 is for now even Big Sur 11.x 'nothing stands still'!

Yes you will need to upgrade to v9.1 to run on Big Sur

You mean that Epic Games buys Autodessys ? - now that's an intersting idea?

What is the MacOSX you are running? I'd suggest Mac OSX 10.14 Mohave no later at this stage on that machine and what graphics card. What was the configuration of Xeon's & RAM There have been substantial changes in the formZ requirements since that era.

Send them your serial number and ask them reset your license.

Yes, we advised that is possible and it available to all users for 2 installs if use not concurrently.

I did that and performance wise the experience as a program user is much faster BUT I have found the user, just getting used to the workflow difference experience to be a nightmare. In the end as I am not just using the 3D application I think I made a mistake. If you just want formZ to go faster get a new PC with Windows 10. But don't expect Windows 10 to NOT change they are already speculating about new updated Windows with a radical new interface???