ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I was using the 3 point circle tool all the time in formZ 6.5.And very important the tools ability to draw a circle on any plane the was defined by the three points snapped to.Now in 8.5 it locks the reference plane at the first click and my work-around it is to define the plane beforehand.I always saw it as a strength for this tool that established the plane on its own, since the geometry is defined by three points.I am now doing double the work, and no matter what key I hit or f5 its stuck on lock reference plane.Is there a way to enable the 3-point-circle tool and the 3-point-rectangle tool not to draw the second and third point on the reference plane locked by the first click, but be able to snap anywhere in the model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Ok I just noticed the same annoying problem with the arc tool!I want to be able to snap to a point that is not on the reference plane locked by the first point/click of using the tool.How do I get rid of that annoying lock-refence-plane?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Drawing tools that create geometry drawn by three points should be able to establish their own plane through those three points.What am I missing? -please help!Just closed 8.5 to work in 6.5 else i won't be able to keep my deadlines if i have to establish a reference plane before i draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 How to disable auto-lock-reference-plane when using drawing tools?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 And Im not even able to overwrite the graphic preview by writing the coordinates of the second point like we could in the old "prompt" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Tech, can you then please fix the problem with the cursor in FormZ6.5 that appears when running mac OS El-Capitan.Wich was my primary reason for updating to FormZ 8.5It seems that I have to do my modelling in 6.5 so that would be nice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Dear Ktejlgaard, Yes, it is expected that these tools would draw on the active reference plane, and you should currently define the desired reference plane before drawing the shape. We see the benefit of allowing the drawing of the 3 point circle or arc to define the plane and we will see if that can be adjusted for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 ok, so leaves me modelling in 6.5 (which would make it really nice with an el-capitan upgrade so that the cursor works properly)The only problem is that the lock-reference-bottom can't be un-enabled while using the tools. (or at least have the possibility of overwritng the snap by writing the coordinates of the points, like in the old days!)I can easily see all the new features in 8.5 and that is become easier and more intuitive.But I have modeled, design planned, made construction drawings and build several projects using FormZ 6.5 (imagegoogle: "Kristoffer tejlgaard")And it seems to me that all the new easiness-features are coming at a cost of oldschool, hardcore precision modelling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Is there a developer at FormZ I could talk to on skype?Im one of the last architects/builders in Denmark using FormZ,and I would hate to leave the software because of a loss in the tools needed to production-precision modelling. Im building a lot of un-ortogonal buildings and have always had an advantage in FormZ over Autocad/Revit, but it seems the advantage is disappearing and I would love to give you feedback from somebody who is building what he is drawing and is pushing the technology on what can be build without being Frank Gehry with his own software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTEK Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Great work Ktejlgaard! +1 take time to talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Hi Kristoffer, We understand your point about being able to draw a rectangle on any plane that has not been pre-defined. Are there any other issues you wish us to consider for the future? It could be possible to find a time where you could Skype, but that would take some time to schedule. If you have any other issues, if you can simply describe them like you did this one (and your first post was more than enough in this case) then we can consider those too... Regarding "the problem with the cursor with formZ 6.5 on El Capitan" we are not sure what you mean. That old version is not supported on such a new operating system, but just so we understand, what is not working as you would like there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktejlgaard Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hi im back again... and again I must express how awesome it is that you are "listening", tech.I think we can save the skype meeting for later, therefor I have listed some things that I think could be addressed : - The 3-point circle/rectangel we talked about, being able to un-lock the reference plane - The possibility to write simple math in the prompt ex. 3207,34mm/2 ( distance /2 or +2 or x2 or -2) Illustrator has this functionality and it saves time. - Toggle layers more snappy, it takes a lot longer to turn layers of and on in the new formZ- Scale parts of object (face,segment) with the measure tool. (absolutely awesome that you have made it possible to scale with the measure tool.- Assigning material density to materials, makes it easier to work weight. in stead of only being able to assign it to an object measure.- The possibility to use the "project" tool on smooth objects without the projected geometri becoming facettet- In formZ 6.5 the cursor lost its ability to turn white/bright on dark backgrounds with the el capitan update for mac - I have attached a photo of a face-meet-tool that i have dreamt about for a long time- grasshopper plugin for formz (of course, and I know its not on your table only)- UV maps, did the "bake uv map" disappear? Really need to be able to create proper UV maps for texturing I have to say thumbs up for the new interface, its way more intuitive, and the are many really well thought new features!I have only worked with it a short time now but I would love to catch up in future when i have used it extensivelyBest RegardsKristoffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hi Kristoffer, Thanks for your feedback / suggestions, we will consider these for the future. Glad you are liking the general improvements with our new interface! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etroxel Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 +1 to the extend/miter tool. I could use that many times a day. Many other good ideas in your list as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Kristoffer, good list... Just thought I'd mention that the "render texture" tool is very handy (in reference to your "bake uv map" point). It's in the Rendering/Animation workspace or if you're using the modelling workspace, hit space bar > hit R (all the tools starting with R show up) where you'll find it. Des Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTEK Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 +1 to the extend/miter tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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