David Lemelin Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Has there been any chatter about a major revision for the near future? FormZ 8 followed FormZ 7 remarkably fast. Given that this forum seems to suggest many improvements and fixes, I'm a little surprised there hasn't been some war drums from Autodessys to excite the user base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cooper Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Has there been any chatter about a major revision for the near future? FormZ 8 followed FormZ 7 remarkably fast. Given that this forum seems to suggest many improvements and fixes, I'm a little surprised there hasn't been some war drums from Autodessys to excite the user base... I reckon it's because V9 is going to be so brilliant we will think it is V10 and well worth the wait But in all seriousness, I don't want a rush job. I only want to use solid software which won't have a multitude of bugs or be susceptible to crashing. Reliability is more important than new bells and whistles for a work tool because that is generally what saves the most time. David Lemelin and Shibui Design 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Alan, I hope they will develop v9 better then they did v8, we'll see... I agree with you it should be free of crashes and major bugs. Anyway, I lost faith and that is after all those years, more then 23 of using FMZ, a shame. I lost energy to report the bugs in v8.5, which is a pity. When was the last major update to fix bugs??? ...I forgot, to long ago. ADS, please give priority to fix all bugs reported over the last 2 or more years. Thank you in advance and looking forward to see a beta version 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cooper Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Hugo, FZ pro 8.5.7 is mainly free from crashes and bugs. Is that what you are using? I still 'save as' regularly as a necessary habit, but loss of work is infrequent now as long as modelling is done sensibly. I agree that has not always been the case but I am glad I persevered through some of the difficult times mainly in V7 and 8 as FZ 8.5.7 is most certainly a powerful and capable design tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setz Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Post or email bugs and requests. ADS does listen to their user base and is truely interested in making their software as great as it can be. Version 8 has come a long way from V7 and is very stable. ADS continues to constantly update the functionality and is consistently adding value to the software. I wish I had more time to submit requests/suggestions and I do whenever I have a moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Agree that 3D modelling works well, but my experiance about creating output, is poor. My most recent issue; in 1 3D model i had to export 1 object with dimensions as a 3D DWG. In total 12 different layers as 12 seperate DWG's. The result: 4 layers perfect, 8 layers missing the objects. And when using hiddenline, text is created in many single segments not readable at all. Not to speak about layout or getting consistent vector output in any way. My standard for WYSIWYG is Vectorworks. Probably the best graphics output in CAD. In an earlier post i mention about many little issues, as if the software is developed in a hurry. If i only modelling and render with Maxwell, i am happy with the result. If i need all kind of other, lets say (2D) output... then... pffffff To say something positive, 3D modelling, the way it can be done is very nice. Brantheat, Davinhex and DerikMr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwin06 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 I do understand the allure of these software wish lists, but I also find them somewhat unnessary. Saying “software X does this, and software Y does this, can software Z do the same?” Is like asking a chef at one restaurant to prepare your meal the way another place does it. If one software works well in certain aspects, use that software. Use a bunch of software! I know formZ’s strong points and it’s limitations so I use something else where formZ falls short. The ONLY issue with this is finding a common file extension that works well in both programs. So I’m going to break my previously stated rule and just say that I hope formZ can solve all the import/export problems. I’ve had random problems with DWG, STEP, OBJ, FBX in the past so generally I export all 4 and see which one works best with my destination software. It’s not the most glamorous workflow but its something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Darwin, i totally agree with you. The tool should do the job... and, that could be much better. darwin06 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Darwin, i totally agree with you. The tool should do the job... and, that could be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cooper Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Agree that 3D modelling works well, but my experiance about creating output, is poor. My most recent issue; in 1 3D model i had to export 1 object with dimensions as a 3D DWG. In total 12 different layers as 12 seperate DWG's. The result: 4 layers perfect, 8 layers missing the objects. And when using hiddenline, text is created in many single segments not readable at all. Not to speak about layout or getting consistent vector output in any way. My standard for WYSIWYG is Vectorworks. Probably the best graphics output in CAD. In an earlier post i mention about many little issues, as if the software is developed in a hurry. If i only modelling and render with Maxwell, i am happy with the result. If i need all kind of other, lets say (2D) output... then... pffffff To say something positive, 3D modelling, the way it can be done is very nice. Hugo, were AD Support not able to help you specifically with your export problem? They normally find a way to achieve what you need and in my experience have been very responsive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) Alan, have no complain about ADS support team and they always try to help. They do their job very well, as a support team. Although the errors I speak about is part of the way the software is developed. ADS support have to deal with it anyway. Last week I sent a file, as mentioned in my earlier post, not yet reaction. But it's ok for me, solved the issue myself in a different way. But, if my client insists to get the 3D DWG, I couldn't deliver. Edited July 13, 2017 by Hugo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lemelin Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I'm a little disappointed to note the apparent lack of input from AutoDessys in the last couple of pages... Not that I want smoke blown up our butts just to keep us happy, but it would be nice to hear that some of these comments aren't simply dying alone in cyberspace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Hi David, Sorry to hear about your disappointment. Our lack of response is strictly because formZ 9 is still in development. In this phase we are still determining which issues are the most imperative to address to deliver a product that will please our entire user base. As much as we strive to include everyone's suggestion, this simply is not possible so we cannot respond to every post saying whether or not it will be included in the next version. When we get closer to moving formZ 9 into the private beta or public beta stage, then we will start dishing out some more information In the meantime, keep your suggestions coming! We are listening! ThatMNTishman, Alan Cooper, Shibui Design and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySchizoBuddy Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 No mention of BIM, or anything related to using formz for 3d architecture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I believe a number of our users have used formZ for architecture over the years No mention of BIM, or anything related to using formz for 3d architecture jsiggia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I use it more then 23 years for architecture. ThatMNTishman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjj Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 A feature that I would find most helpful is topological cycling via shortcut and like that available in Nevercenters Silo it's simple and available. Having it accessible as an overlay within the viewport is very handy and tidy (i find formz a great tool but I've always found the UI functional but untidy ) The tool manager is very helpful on this front but the fact I cannot add the topological selection to it is a bit of a misstep as is a lack of pop ups for numerical input, I find I do an awful lot of unnecessary mouse tracking to get jobs done. A scene states feature would also be a great addition allowing for positional and may be material iterations. I use a 3dconnexion device, mouse and as little keyboard as possible. David Lemelin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Any news from ADS? We would like to hear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¢hris £und Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 sjj, I set up my numeric keypad for all my topo levels, as well as snaps (with different modifier keys). But a simple script could handle cycling easily enough. ¢£ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Last few months I uploaded several movie’s with errors to ADS support, they were happy to see these bugs in a movie. It makes supporting and solving much easier, they said. I’m using the latest version of the software and I am happy I could help them in this way. Today I have read this complete thread again and again it seems we users lost our interests. More than a year ago today; no input. So I give it a little kick... ADS, how is it going these days with the development of the next version? Is there anything you can bring to the forum? Edited May 20, 2019 by Hugo Jaakko, jsiggia, Andre Conlledo and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danshaw Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 For what it's worth, I received some upgrade offers from ADS here in the UK that mentions v9 is coming late summer... Maybe the fact that they have been virtually invisible in the forum for so long now points to this being the case - hard at work on the next release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danshaw Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 of course late summer does not leave very long for a public beta. Alan Cooper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwiede Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Did it say "2019" anywhere? 😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lemelin Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Is this application still a living thing? In the years since Upgrading to FZ 8.x I have had three revisions to MODO, two revisions to Rhino and Blender has launched a free 3D application that emphasizes how far 3D tech and hardware have come. There were 2 posts in 2018 about v9 and the few from 2019 sound like calls in the wilderness. Ever since unveiling their support for V-Ray, it's seemed like all further development went into suspended animation. A better rendering solution was a MUST... but there are still lots of things to improve and frankly, considering MODO, Rhino and Blender all have stellar renderers built into the package... the price point on FromZ (which needs an outside renderer to compete) is not making a whole lot of sense. I dunno ADS, feels like you're losing interest or conceding that time has simply passed FormZ by. vva and FZnoob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Cooper Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 According to the website, Autodessys is looking for a number of new members of staff so perhaps this could be a reason for some slow or quiet progress at the moment but late Summer will be with us soon enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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