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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Simple Snapping Question   
    Two, what version of fZ are you using?  I created a script do do this for v9.x.   the script still needs some work, as it is dependent on some changes to the SDK.  But, it is functional.  Sorry, only works on 9.x
    The script allows for a lot more positions than just center.  Minimums, Maximums Middle and Center of Gravity of each of the objects considered.
    All of which should yield (if my logic/math is correct)  144 possible positions.
     

    The tricky bit, is it currently cannot use pick order but has to use object creation order.    So, you have to Cut and paste the object you want to be displaced  (this action puts it as being created last in the objects List)
    When the SDK allows for pick order, I will update the script.

     
     
    Hope this helps!
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Simple Snapping Question   
    Two, what version of fZ are you using?  I created a script do do this for v9.x.   the script still needs some work, as it is dependent on some changes to the SDK.  But, it is functional.  Sorry, only works on 9.x
    The script allows for a lot more positions than just center.  Minimums, Maximums Middle and Center of Gravity of each of the objects considered.
    All of which should yield (if my logic/math is correct)  144 possible positions.
     

    The tricky bit, is it currently cannot use pick order but has to use object creation order.    So, you have to Cut and paste the object you want to be displaced  (this action puts it as being created last in the objects List)
    When the SDK allows for pick order, I will update the script.

     
     
    Hope this helps!
    ¢£

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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Simple Snapping Question   
    Two, what version of fZ are you using?  I created a script do do this for v9.x.   the script still needs some work, as it is dependent on some changes to the SDK.  But, it is functional.  Sorry, only works on 9.x
    The script allows for a lot more positions than just center.  Minimums, Maximums Middle and Center of Gravity of each of the objects considered.
    All of which should yield (if my logic/math is correct)  144 possible positions.
     

    The tricky bit, is it currently cannot use pick order but has to use object creation order.    So, you have to Cut and paste the object you want to be displaced  (this action puts it as being created last in the objects List)
    When the SDK allows for pick order, I will update the script.

     
     
    Hope this helps!
    ¢£

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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Simple Snapping Question   
    Two, what version of fZ are you using?  I created a script do do this for v9.x.   the script still needs some work, as it is dependent on some changes to the SDK.  But, it is functional.  Sorry, only works on 9.x
    The script allows for a lot more positions than just center.  Minimums, Maximums Middle and Center of Gravity of each of the objects considered.
    All of which should yield (if my logic/math is correct)  144 possible positions.
     

    The tricky bit, is it currently cannot use pick order but has to use object creation order.    So, you have to Cut and paste the object you want to be displaced  (this action puts it as being created last in the objects List)
    When the SDK allows for pick order, I will update the script.

     
     
    Hope this helps!
    ¢£

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    ¢hris £und reacted to AsOne in Tutorials??   
    I haven't seen the videos, but probably many of the basics are covered here already:  https://www.getmethod.com/formz
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Mike_Concentric in Tutorials??   
    Skybound,
     
    I like that!  As more in-depth tutorials come available, they can be linked to the Wiki.  And if a tutorial has multiple steps, each step can be linked into their appropriate wiki section/page.
    Tech, Any thoughts?
     
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Mike_Concentric in Tutorials??   
    Mike,
    We don't know if they have 3 or 300 employees.  Documentation on a product that has what, 289 tools just on the main toolbar, each with multiple options... another 94 throughout the interface for a total of 383 tools  Add to that, the interface, the palettes, extensions, menu items...   No small task.
    If they do it, they should do it for the best case for the widest audience possible.   Print: doesn't seem to be it anymore.  But, to be honest, I do not know that.
    Additionally, most of the behavior is already out there.  Which, I suspect, is why there hasn't been a lot of focus on it for a while.   Though, I do agree, a 1 stop shop with uniformity and consistency is best.
     
    Maybe ADS would be interested in a joint effort.  They could dictate quality control and Style guide.  Willing users could supply the content.
     
    Regardless of how it is done...  I think we can agree, it needs to be done.   But, I suppose if we have to dicker on the shape of the table first, that has to be first. **
     
     
    ••  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiXuMf70N3vAhXVLs0KHd8xDfMQFjABegQICBAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FParis_Peace_Accords&usg=AOvVaw3uQIy3FOtrQtXtnEU26fZq
     
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    ¢hris £und reacted to Justin Montoya in Tutorials??   
    All good ideas  But, before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I think we are missing modern animated documentation showing the basics of formZ tools and workflow.  These should be imbedded in the documentation pages for new users to help quickly get up to speed with formZ. 
    So let's say we start with simple animations showing how to use each basic tool, something new users could quickly watch while following along to learn the basics of formZ.  I like animated GIFs for quick tool demos.  Here, I made an example showing how the basic INSERT HOLE tool works.  I feel like this is a good example showing the basic, but very fast and efficient solid modeling power of formZ:

     
    I think it would be great if future tutorials could show similar animated GIFs broken down into logical steps.  That way it's' not a long video you need to rewind, instead it is a short looping video showing the current step.
    I realize my customized workspace may not be the best basis for these, but I really love having my Tools on the Right which is the logical next step of setting the Tool Options.  
    Future animations could even just use a small portion of the screen with the modeling and pop out tool bar that shows how the basic functions work without all the other Interface visible.
    BTW, I'm using a nice app called ScreenToGif to quickly record, edit, and export these.  https://www.screentogif.com/
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    ¢hris £und reacted to Justin Montoya in Tutorials??   
    I too would love to see more proper tutorials.  
    Maybe we could develop a 'framework' for these tutorials so they can be a bit more consistent?
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    ¢hris £und reacted to Justin Montoya in Left field, far out suggestion   
    I have requested a public Open Support tracking system in the past.  I am spoiled by how Rhino handles this, and I think FormZ would ultimately improve dramatically if this were available.  However I think in the short term until ADS has more developers available to work on such as system, we will need to use the forum as our crowd source.
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Justin Montoya in Left field, far out suggestion   
    After spending a bit of time catching up on the forum and repeating themes over the years... I wonder if something like this could help us all.
    How about a built in bug reporting system.  Key features:
    •One that effectively crowd sources issues.  
    •One that users can view the list of bugs and collectively set the priority of need (not to confuse this with priority of ease, sometimes easy fixes should come first).  •One where when a problem is difficult to describe, a record function can be invoked to map the users actions with the tracebacks and logs.   Think of something like how the macro recording is performed, but used instead for bug reporting.  
    •Up to and including optional screenshots/screencaps.  
    •System configuration is automatically captured
    •This would be *opt in, but a bare minimum of tracking of conditions and parameters that are always on (the aforementioned option*).  As some of the more spontaneous issues, I can't recall the exact steps I was performing to even test if it is a repeatable issue.
    •Issues databased, sorted and categorized, possibly with user input.
    More?
    What I am envisioning is something built into the core of fZ.  I can certainly reason why ADS would NOT want to implement such a scheme.  As they may not want to  expose the quantitative value or qualitative value of their bugs.  Or be a constant reminder to users of issues.    Me personally, I think this would have more advantages than disadvantages especially in the long run... but it would probably take time to get there.
    Essentially, what I am thinking of is how SpaceX deals with things.   They monitor everything they can think of as a massive data collection effort for the sole purpose of improvement.
    How many of us have pet bugs that we now ignore, or work around or, or or and simply do not report it.  We got stuff to do, so breaking out and dedicated email is just too much work.  This system could collect the frequency of specific bug events to aid ADS in priority.     e.g.   if a minor bug is experienced by 3 users infrequently, it can probably be pushed down the list.   However, if a minor bug has a high frequency amongst users and a high frequency to specific users, this would push the issue up the list.
    This If active, this would be a post hoc system.   What I am trying to say here is, the user is working then notices the bug...  at that moment, the user can flag it as a bug in they system (fZ)  and the processes and actions that it took to get there is then and only then reported.  Optionally allowing the user to include their model (being sensitive to IP and etc...)   This could be set up as a data worm (as new info comes in, the oldest is discarded)  Length would have to be determined, naturally.
    I always prefer an opt in model and something like this, in my opinion should follow accordingly.
    What do you think?  Am I being stupid?  Would this be too hard to implement?  Would people bother?  Beta Testers only?  Is this a pill ADS should be willing to swallow (yea, probably a pretty big pill.)   Pros/Cons?
    Any thoughts to my ¼ baked idea? 
     
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Justin Montoya in Can't draw with line on a surface...   
    Of note,  the numerical accuracy and how it overrides snaps, has been an issue since v7.  I have reported it as a bug a couple of times (first a long time ago), but I think I was only able to make it clear as to what I meant fairly recently.  This wasn't an issue in 6.x and prior.
    It drives me nuts.   I almost always drop it to something like 1/1024  or 1/2048.   with a number of decimal places set to 10.
    Of course, these days I tend to work on projects that are no larger than a card table. and most often with objects that are smaller than a loaf of bread.  At these sizes, that damn NA really gets to be a nuisance! 
     
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from AHTOH in Draft layout text   
    Maybe I am thick, but shouldn't a note, be a note and not really a part of the printed document?   Pretty sure notes don't show up in a printed MS word document.
    Though, I may be misunderstanding the intent.   I have been confused by this in the modeler as well.  I have wanted to attache notes to myself documenting design decisions etc...
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from setz in 3 Point Align   
    Looking.
    Currently, all scripts are "Utility" scripts.  So, until I look further, my guess is it will not behave quite the same way.
    I don't recall off the top of my head to see if click points can be tracked.  That will be the first thing to consider.
    Pre-picking is currently NOT available since the API does not keep the list in order.   So, there is no way to know which object was picked first or last.
     
    However, I will have to dig in to see if we can get at least some partial functionality.
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from setz in 3 Point Align   
    Looking.
    Currently, all scripts are "Utility" scripts.  So, until I look further, my guess is it will not behave quite the same way.
    I don't recall off the top of my head to see if click points can be tracked.  That will be the first thing to consider.
    Pre-picking is currently NOT available since the API does not keep the list in order.   So, there is no way to know which object was picked first or last.
     
    However, I will have to dig in to see if we can get at least some partial functionality.
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    valthewu,
    Whew,  "moderator" is a bit of a misnomer and a serious exaggeration in my case.  All I am given access to is to moderate the form•Z LAB, Plugins and Scripts Forum and my own posts well after the fact. (Given access to these for reasons, I don't feel compelled to over explain at this point) I do not have access posts outside of those conditions.  i.e. I cannot moderate or modify this thread even if I wanted to.   Though, it is completely understandable why the error in perception was made.  
    To further clarify, should there be any question:  I am NOT an employee of ADS nor do I represent them in any way. If I were, I wouldn't be under my own name as you may note; anything that comes from ADS does not come from an individual.
    You do make a valid point.  Due to the overstated classification of "moderator" and my inability to STFU.  ADS has the option to pull my status or even ban me outright.  If they did, I could not blame them in either case. (I really don't represent them, nor should anybody think I do) While I hope they do not.  It is their software and their forum, after all.
    I apologize if I came off as being offended.  I am not, nor was I.   If you read carefully my text, I only wrote on points where I disagreed and even somewhat disagreed..  Many of your points I not only find valid, but actually agree and I noted that.  There are a number of areas that ADS needs to address.  Just not all the ones you attempted to point out. I tried to lay those out methodically.   There are a number of issues they need to address that you didn't point out.One last thought of my own.  
     
    Interested or not.   A tantrum dance is cute. The first 6 seconds of the following is proof of that.
     
    I am the penultimate Kleiner Schwanz. ( I just offended myself, what do I do now?  Answer: Tantrum Dance!)
     
    I had read and responded, but decided a rare bit of constraint might be in order, so I removed the rest, but have a remaining thought of my own.
    If you are so happy with your other software, then why are you so software nomadic? Too bad you won't be able to see that question.  I am genuinely curious.
    ¢hristopher ∂avid £und
     

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    ¢hris £und reacted to santa in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    valthewu,
     
     

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    ¢hris £und reacted to skybound13 in Tutorials??   
    Chris,
    Even writing something as small as an app seems very challenging to me.  Too bad there’s not an app to manage those external pressures, figure that one out and your new job will be counting the money people will pay for that!
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    ¢hris £und reacted to santa in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    It's time to chill out.....all together now:
     
     
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    I think one issue to consider is: How does ADS move forward with appealing to younger generations without alienating the rest of us?  New users are essential to the future.  Not in just the direct sales, but it is the new users that push the envelope and brag/show their work.  And, in turn show off the capabilities of their tools.
    There are some details in which the original poster is correct on.  And if ADS replied a bit defensively, I can't really blame them either.  He/She was a bit of a prick about it.
    Point out the issues, fine! (as he/she did so)  But to throw a tantrum dance around those issues... well... prick comes to mind.  (kleiner Schwanz)  But, then again, look at me here, I am being a prick right back.  Everybody has the right to be offended, so F the f off!  (just a joke folks, though I was being serious about everybody has the right to be offended.)
    Regarding the images posted in the OP:
    1, yes this could resolve better.
    2, I think this is new.  Though, I do not keep old versions to back test against except version 6.7.x   It certainly isn't something I have noticed before.
    3, I am missing the problem here.  Ok, the icons themselves don't appeal?  Cry me an H20 Molecule.
    4, Not sure, but the blue dots are admittedly rather vague, and the palette is larger than it needs be.   On the second point, this is a modal dialog and thus has no impact on the operation of the program or it's use.  So, is inconsequential IMHO.   And, oddly, my palette of the same looks different.  I have more options.  Not sure what detailed version of the app He/She tested but it is possible that was a bug.
     
    Regarding the more detailed points above the images, I will respond to the ones I disagree with.  The others I do agree with.
    - bad quality check of functions and tools (unlike rhino)     This needs to be clarified.  Without the specifics this does get into bashing that goes quite well with the tantrum dance later in the post.
    - non consistent tool options (unlike c4d) This needs to be clarified.  Without the specifics this does get into bashing that goes quite well with the tantrum dance later in the post.   Don't different tools require different options?  Or should we just have 1 tool and nothing but options.
    - interface not customizable enough, even in the pro version (unlike c4d, even rhino!)  I actually, kind of agree here, though much of what we do have now is recent and early on in 9 was a cause of much disruption, but has for the most part stabilized.  Too, I am not sure how much of that is given to the free version vs Pro.   If you used the free version, what do you know of the Pro version?  (admittedly, I know nothing of the free version.)
    - very slow development (unlike blender)  Isn't blender open source?  While certainly an issue that ADS has to contend with, this isn't a reasonable comparison.  (I could be wrong)
    - slow response to whishes from users (like many other companies, but most of them have a solid plug in/addon source)  This, historically, I fundamentally disagree.  I have put in a great deal of suggestions over the years.  Many of them have been included and included immediately in the beta cycle.  Not every idea that I have pushed their way has been included... but it would be arrogant of me (more than I already am) for me to assume that any and every idea I have fits with the goals and intent of the company.  And quite frankly have any positive impact on other users than myself.   So, sure, they could pack and pack and pack tools... that tends to go against the whole UI argument though.   A better option is the script/plugin where we the users can do what we need for ourselves. This IMHO, has been a long resurrection in coming.  But one I cannot blame ADS for. The API transition is not trivial.    And to be clear, plug-ins have been available throughout, it is only the scripting that has been temporarily though significantly interrupted... But we are on our way back.    Evangelizing by ADS and users to get developers on board, yea, that could use work.
    - Some modern aspects of designing 3d like parametric, history- or node-based design (and a proper integrated renderer), which other software solutions have long used, are not covered here anyway!  Parametric, really... Z is parametric.   History/Node... yea I think most of us do wish for that. I suspect that Harkens back to some decisions many years ago.  And is probably deep seeded into the code where such changes would be extremely disruptive at this point.     Proper integrated renderer: Hmmm... My renderer is fully integrated. Albeit Dated since Autodesk purchased it and shelved it for the sole purpose of eliminated or at best hurting competition.   V-ray is now available and there are others (yea, kind of)  but this is an issue that if you want, pony up the cash.
    - It is also not enough to offer state of the art technology (like sub-D), the tools have to evolve!  First off, State of the Art sub-D??  Really?  Catmull-clark  sub-D which pretty sure is still what MODO uses (my personal favorite SDS modeler) harkens back all the way back to 1978... Not exactly State of the art.    State of the art would have been T-Splines.  Which ADS was actively working on integrating.  But oops, Autodesk once again to the rescue with a lead life-saver.  Pretty sure they shelved that too.     Lastly on this issue.  fZ isn't a dedicated SDS modeler.  While I personally would like some additional functionality (hell yes, even one tool should be dropped as far as I am concerned.)  So, what can we reasonably expect?  State of the art?  How many other SDS modelers can translate their SDS model to full on Solid object NURBS?  I have no reasonable doubt there aren't any others... I don't think it is many.   Last I looked (and, yes I am a bit out of date)  Modo could not... Can Rhino?  I will have to check, I really don't know.
    The rest of the bullet points are fair... at least up to the Tantrum Dance.  At that point, the OP lost reams of credibility.
    ¢£
    P.S.  I don't seem know know what a short story is.
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Des in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    valthewu,
    Whew,  "moderator" is a bit of a misnomer and a serious exaggeration in my case.  All I am given access to is to moderate the form•Z LAB, Plugins and Scripts Forum and my own posts well after the fact. (Given access to these for reasons, I don't feel compelled to over explain at this point) I do not have access posts outside of those conditions.  i.e. I cannot moderate or modify this thread even if I wanted to.   Though, it is completely understandable why the error in perception was made.  
    To further clarify, should there be any question:  I am NOT an employee of ADS nor do I represent them in any way. If I were, I wouldn't be under my own name as you may note; anything that comes from ADS does not come from an individual.
    You do make a valid point.  Due to the overstated classification of "moderator" and my inability to STFU.  ADS has the option to pull my status or even ban me outright.  If they did, I could not blame them in either case. (I really don't represent them, nor should anybody think I do) While I hope they do not.  It is their software and their forum, after all.
    I apologize if I came off as being offended.  I am not, nor was I.   If you read carefully my text, I only wrote on points where I disagreed and even somewhat disagreed..  Many of your points I not only find valid, but actually agree and I noted that.  There are a number of areas that ADS needs to address.  Just not all the ones you attempted to point out. I tried to lay those out methodically.   There are a number of issues they need to address that you didn't point out.One last thought of my own.  
     
    Interested or not.   A tantrum dance is cute. The first 6 seconds of the following is proof of that.
     
    I am the penultimate Kleiner Schwanz. ( I just offended myself, what do I do now?  Answer: Tantrum Dance!)
     
    I had read and responded, but decided a rare bit of constraint might be in order, so I removed the rest, but have a remaining thought of my own.
    If you are so happy with your other software, then why are you so software nomadic? Too bad you won't be able to see that question.  I am genuinely curious.
    ¢hristopher ∂avid £und
     

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    ¢hris £und reacted to skybound13 in Tutorials??   
    Chris,
    Sounds like you have truly taken “work smarter, not harder” to heart!  If you’re looking for practice making tutorial videos maybe you could do something about scripting for more advanced users?  Could even be a video with your top five favorite scripts if you want to keep it light.
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from graham_g in Tutorials??   
    FZnoob, skybound13,
    These are close to a year old now but may help.   I apologies that my presentation skills suck.
     
    The final video above was using the techniques formed from the previous videos to build a coke bottle.
    Here is a different method to build the same coke bottle.   While this method is far less fluid than the SDS method above, it is also technically far more exacting.  I think I must have just posted this in the discussion that prompted me to make the tutorials and didn't create a separate tutorial thread for it.
    https://youtu.be/b44MU13JsX4
     
    I will try to get less sucky at making tutorials... but that is a skill unto its own.
     
    ¢£
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    ¢hris £und got a reaction from Smarttec in A way to make formZ more popular (but you won't like it...)   
    There are a just a few things to consider here.
    1. the iMac Pro was really merely a transition machine while they took way to damn long to come out with a Pro Tower.
    2. The M1 in its debut looks impressive.  And thus far, we only have the low power mobile chip to give comparisons to.  The M1 beats anything currently in it's class.  Qualcom's SnapDragon, is simply outclassed. (for now)
    3. Microsofts ARM implementation up to this point is sub-par compared to intel/AMD offerings on their own side.  Not so for the M1/Intel Comparison.  So much so, that the ARM windows was Quasi-Ported over to the M1 mac to run in translation, and it runs better on an M1 than the Microsofts own SnapDragon derivative.   I do not pretend this will stay this way.  It won't take long for MS to have their WTF moments and get moving again.  They can't afford to have another iPod/Zune or iPhone/windows mobile event, and I bet they know it.   Ultimately, this is a good thing for both sides of the argument.
    4. Yes, there is software that I have had to run that was elusively windows, and I am disappointed that Parallels/VMWare no longer (probably temporarily) have a place.  I bet once MS beefs up their ARM hardware to match, the market for it will grow and software will make that transition.
    5. As I understand, there is a fair amount of windows software that is not Native to WARM.  Stifling the market for the hardware, thus stifling the market for the software, Recursively.  This is likely to change now.  As much as people do not like apple (often for merit,)  they do change the industry, repeatedly.
    6. Microsoft themselves have not committed to the ARM platform, thus giving rise to #5.  It has been more of a hobby if you will.  This too, is likely to change.
    7. Microsoft did not really beat Apple to the ARM punch.  The M1 and ostensibly further derivatives are in themselves derivatives from  their phone chips they have been designing for quite some time.  Apple licenses the instruction set, they design the chips on their own.
    8. Yes, GPU has lagged historically, pathetically.  However, even on the GPU integrated mobile chip, there is a significant boost.   Though certainly not on par with discrete GPUs of Nvidia or AMD currently.  For that we will just have to wait to see what they do.
    9. For apple to push back into the PC market with their own chipset, is a pretty good sign of them showing commitment regardless of their other business models.   I too do think that they let the Pro business slide and slide way too far.  IMHO, they should have jumped ship from Intel a long time ago and embraced AMD or at least been willing to use the best option to fit their end goal (machine to machine) Should I B&M about MS and their foray into Business products?  I mean really?  A word processor, how lame!  Or their AI devision? or Quantum computing, or WebServices/Servers?  Hardware, Mice, keyboards, tablets, hybrids, AR glasses, tables.... yes tables?  That means they have an industrial design team, or at least doles out money to have it done for them.
    10. The car is still a rumor.  And doubtful they will be designing building the chassis and other critical "Car" stuff.
    11. Hate on apple all you want.  Thats cool that you think that's cool.  Damn, your so cool!  However consider this.  If it weren't for Apple or someone like them, Microsoft would not have needed to advance their products.  And quite frankly, likewise.  If Apple didn't have someone to rise up to, they never would have.   If you haven't figured it out by now, let me in on a little secret.  MS is like a grandpa hoarder.  They have an extremely difficult time letting go of anything legacy.  I sure do wish we could go back to MS Dos.  Ah, the good-ol-days.  You know, before CAD even existed on anything other than a Mainframe. 5.25" floppy drives oooh yea!  Hell, my first computer had a cassette drive.  I have even used a computer professionally that used paper punch tape (I "programmed" embroidery machines) (not quite far back enough to have used punch cards)   I was pretty good at getting around a VAX/VMS.  All legacy stuff, I am really honestly happy to be done with now that I know better.
    While I am sure Apple and it's overwhelming willingness to drop legacy concepts is a thorn in ADSs side, as well as other developers.  Apple or MS isn't ADSs problem.
    *Marketing, yes, is a strong part of it.  Much of their marketing used to be through Universities and students.  That market of marketing doesn't appear to be viable any longer.  
    *Technologies, also a strong part of it.  Web based platforms are getting stronger.  There is a write once deliver anywhere model for you.  Would it be worth their effort too do so?  I do not know.  Personally, I prefer native... but as hardware gets more capable, this may not be an issue in the future (maybe not now, my brain might just be legacy.)
    * Open source and free(ish)ware.  Many modelers get their feet wet these days on such "products" and have no need to move past them.  This has taken much of the student market.  In my opinion, ADS should embrace some of the OpenSource Base code to enhance the functionality.  How about an open source Physics engine?  I think Bullet is one.   There is a lot out there that they could, I think, Capitalize on.  Now that Python is in the works, this is all I will say about python in this discussion, there are tons of libraries that can be taken advantage of.
    * Consolidation.  Well, just think of Autodesk.  They have so many products (and shelved products they have purchased.)   Modo has changed hands at least twice now and into a conglomerate.
    * Base philosophy.   Things are changing.  ADS is small enough to lift its head and see this. Though difficult. This is to their advantage.  But it is up to them to do so.  And Up to us to prod them to do so.  Constructively, of course.
    *** User Base.  Yes, I mean us!  We are a problem for ADS.  Why, because we are also aging.  We have less time to play and experiment and give word of mouth and build things just for the cool factor of it.  The youth, that is what they do, and as they push forward, they also push forward their toolset.  I am sure there are some younger folk here than I.  Probably some real young ones too, say in their 30's or 40's.  But these are going to be career people too. Not spending their free time pushing the envelope and showing off....   Showing off!!!! AKA word of mouth marketing.
    * Predicting demise... Oh that helps.  Here, let's create the impressions a company is unhealthy so nobody wants to buy in.  Real responsible.  It is like a politician telling America what to think by telling America what he thinks America thinks..  (Apologies to any anAmericans out there, but this is something our politicians do and it is effective over our citizenry of both parties.  You may recognize the strategy in your homeland as well)
    Picking one thing and pointing to it as "the" problem is quite frankly Myopic.  And I say this not to defend Apple.  It is just a simplistic and myopic mindset.  Nobody will solve real problems with this form of thinking.  This is meant as a constructive criticism, but take it however you like.  You have the right to be offended.
    If we want ADS and fZ to survive... Help them help you!  Their last beta was open.Wide open.  Test, give feedback, not bitchfests  (though looking back, I am quite guilty of that too.)  Often the bug reports aren't specific but overwhelmingly non-specific.  Especially about the UI.  And regardless, they have to make decisions.  One group of people will want something one way and another will hate it...  Deal with it!  Or, better yet.  Devise a solution at least in concept... don't just tell them something sucks.  detail it.  And only hope that it fits in with their intentions... don't expect it.  I have suggested many things over the 27ish years of being a user... Many have been included, most have not.  I deal.   Which is why I love Py*** oops, so close!
    Quit posting bug reports on the forum!!  They have no way to track them long term.  The forum just isn't built for it.
    Let's quit being the fudy duddies we have become and show our passions like we used to.  Quit bitching like old men on a street bench.  Remember the days when we had self driven contests? (thanks Dan M! those were good times)    Let's quit thinking we are of responsibility mean while pointing the finger anywhere and everywhere else.
     
    Don't get me wrong, ADS has work to do.  In some areas, a lot!  I formally make myself available to ADS to offer my input, not demands.  Should they have use for it.
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    Hah!  I doubt anybody will read all of that.  Can't blame anybody for that but me.  Though about editing it down, but WTH.
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    ¢hris £und reacted to ZTEK in Left field, far out suggestion   
    I also think it's a great idea, and I hope it comes to fruition. Already, I offer myself to participate, and you can also count on me to test it during the development period if you need it. I don't have any programming experience, but I am methodical.
    I hope ADS will be interested and you receive their support. I suppose you will need it.
    Thanks for the propositive initiative and ideas!
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