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    Learning Form Z 9

    btw, even though the videos lean heavily towards working in 3D shaded mode it is just as easy to revert back to working in wireframe and traditional orthogonal views if that's what you're used too. I find I switch between them a lot depending on what I'm modelling
  2. SJD

    Learning Form Z 9

    Hi did something similar moving from 6.7 to 8.6 about 4 months ago. Unfortunately there are hardly any up to date videos on the website (as has already been discussed) but it is well worth watching the migration videos from V7 onwards (on FormZ website/YouTube). I have been able to get up to speed by watching them (over and over...) There's lots of useful stuff in them that will help you start to make sense of the overhauled UI and they introduce you to working in 3D and lots of other features that will help you with workflow. The Evan Troxel videos look great but you don't need to spend $300 to start using FZ effectively
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    what's new webinar

    very nice setz I hadn't thought of creating a cage in Modo and bringing into FZ, sounds interesting. I'd love to have seen the finished CNC'd model 😎
  4. SJD

    what's new webinar

    cheers Chris understood - as mentioned, I guess there are many uses for FormZ and perhaps this is why it has not really found success or popularity in any one field. Maybe if it refined it's toolsets and honed in on certain industries it might have a brighter future going forward. Personally I'm looking to advance in pure visualisation at the highest level I can (mainly for advertising) so I won't have too much need for manufacturing or engineering. I guess Modo is perfect for that. That said, FZ is still my weapon of choice for my day job 😎
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    what's new webinar

    Hi Alan this is not my work (but maybe one day 😁)
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    what's new webinar

    Hi Chris, I'm curious as to where you think FZ really shines? feel free to delete this post but here are a few examples of the kind of work I'm aspiring to in Modo and as a 3D artist - I have never seen anything of this standard produced in FormZ. As mentioned before, I don't think it's because it's not capable but mainly because many users wouldn't know where to start based on existing tutorials. I have only been using Modo for a short while but already I can see some approaches as to how I would tackle these projects because of the videos available. I wouldn't have a clue using FormZ. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter to me - I will carry on using FZ for my bread and butter work and delve further into Modo for the advanced stuff. I just think it's a pity that FormZ is unlikely to ever make the impact it probably deserves to modelled and rendered in Modo (credits: Richard Yot, Bart Van Doornik, Tharso77)
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    what's new webinar

    that's true, however the problem with them I feel is that they lack context. Knowing what specific tools do is only part of the picture - knowing when and how to apply them is the real trick and that's I why I would like to see FormZ in action on real projects instead of the arbitrary ones in the videos. As you say, something 'real world' where precise measuring and appearance is crucial (and something a bit more complex than a generic chair or jug). I can't be the only one who has this problem - you only have to look at the gallery to see nearly all of the work on there uses only very basic modelling tools
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    what's new webinar

    hey Chris that may well be the case but you have spent several years using it focussed on modelling and probably understand its 3D capabilities more than most. I don't think many people would be willing to spend time digging deep with only limited teaching resources and a manual in order to find that out (me included).
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    what's new webinar

    it's interesting to see that, even though we only have a small cross section of users on here, that we all use FZ for quite different purposes. Perhaps that's why FZ seems to have fallen through the cracks over the years and isn't more popular - it's tried to be too many things to too many people and hasn't really been able to shine in any one particular area. It lacks identity and direction. For me personally, I have used it for trade show design for over 20 years which has been great, but I have always had the feeling I have only ever been using a fraction of it's true potential. I decided a few months back to try and get deeper into 3D modelling but became frustrated at the lack of focussed tutorials - by that I mean being able to see it used step by step on real world projects as opposed to the rather brief, ad hoc fanciful examples in the ADS videos. By way of contrast, I decided to look at Modo - I have been using it for a couple of months now and already I am able to produce models that I could only have dreamed of with FormZ. Just to be clear - I don't think this is because FZ isn't as capable - it's because I have been able to study a professionals step by step approach to a specific modelling task or project. I have learnt so much in the past few months about 3D modelling because I have access to these tutorials. I think if ADS were to put a few targeted up to date tutorials together that were industry specific it would greatly help consumers evaluate it's potential, help define it's identity and give it a fighting chance in the marketplace
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    NEW FZ VIDEO'S - STRAW POLL

    Chris Lund mentioned in a previous thread that the RenderZone/Lightworks engine had been purchased by Autodesk and essentially shelved - I'd heard something similar before so there isn't going to be any further development for it in the future by the looks of it. I guess that's where V-ray will take over and why it's being developed in house. I still think RenderZone is a very capable (and fast) renderer in the right hands
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    what's new webinar

    yes, it would be nice if something could be worked out... off topic slightly, but I found a nice interview from 2007 with Chris Yessios. Hope it's ok to share the link interview
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    NEW FZ VIDEO'S - STRAW POLL

    +1 (and more in depth V-ray now RenderZone is no longer supported)
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    what's new webinar

    just been browsing 'FormZ fundamentals' by Evan Troxel and I must say it looks really good but $300 is a no no for me. If only ADS would hire someone of that standard to produce a short series of industry focussed videos - it would be an excellent selling tool (and of course, invaluable to the existing community)
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    what's new webinar

    I can't recall ADS ever having marketed themselves with any conviction and seem to have been happy relying on word of mouth etc. That approach has developed a small but very loyal following - FZ Tech were always present on this forum and excellent at responding to users questions but I rarely see them now and these forums are very quiet compared to how they used to be. I really want to invest more time and money into the software but I'm not sure it's worth spending it on something that sadly seems to be in decline
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    what's new webinar

    FZ Tech/ADS have openly admitted that marketing is not their forte and decent quality, up to date tutorials (along with some 'inspirational' videos of their software's selling points) are a crucial part of any marketing campaign. The first thing I look at when considering any software is the gallery, and without wishing to cause offence, most of the work in FZ's gallery looks pretty poor and dated. There is hardly any work in there that truly shows off it's capability (and maybe decent tutorials would have helped this). It seems crazy that, after all the effort that has clearly gone into developing the software, that the marketing side has not been addressed. And in a world where the competition grows ever more fierce (and FZ's already small user base seems to be shrinking) I'd say that was business suicide.
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    what's new webinar

    I think online tutorials are essential for the survival of any software package these days however 'amazing' the app may be. I learnt the old way, as many of you here I imagine, from reading through the manual, trial and error, experimentation etc. because online resources didn't exist for anyone back in the day. Expensive face to face training was the only option then. That's all changed and If potential buyers cannot quickly evaluate a packages potential by seeing evidence of what it's capable of and how to use it they will quickly move onto the competition. The fact most of FZ's tutorials are over 7 years old is laughable and would put me off straight away if I were starting out again. I was looking to expand my own knowledge of FZ and get into more asset based modelling and sub division surfaces but became increasing frustrated at the complete lack of any meaningful tutorials. I've since moved to Modo - sure, it's a bit of a learning curve but it's been made a heck of a lot easier by using the wealth of high quality teaching material out there. I've learnt more in 3 months than I ever did in 20 years of using FormZ.
  17. Hi again I'm trying to set up some simple lighting rigs and I'm having problems with the atmospheric light settings on the Sun light. I've narrowed it down using a very simple set up. Create a basic cube. Ambient light is on (20%) Sun is on with the intensity set very low (1 or 2%) Atmospheric is checked (50% but it doesn't matter) No shadows. This is a method shown in one of ADS's old videos Crashes every time...any reasons why? thanks as always Steve
  18. ok, an update if anyone's interested having shadows 'off' seems to cause the crash. If shadows are selected then it appears to work ok at any intensity Not sure why though, another 'quirk' I guess
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    Object selection

    Hi all is there a way of simplifying FZ's object selection? I have disabled the selection preview but I still get the irritating 'preemptive' selections showing up all over the place which is really annoying. I want to just be able to click on an object without the possibility of selecting other objects by mistake. Same goes for selecting faces and points. I work mostly in wireframe for accuracy but find it's also hit and miss if I want to select an object that's behind another like in the pic. I takes several attempts to select the object highlighted because it auto selects the object in front if that makes sense. thanks Steve
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    Object selection

    cheers Justin a timely response, I was just going to post this in the spirit of balance. I had a go a re-creating the attached pic of an office foyer using only FZ and RenderZone. I honestly think RenderZone is excellent if you are willing to accept it's limitations. I've never been a fan of the strictly 'accurate' render engines because of the usual big increase in render times. You can do some very decent 'fakes' in RenderZone in a fraction of the time and time is often money as they say. I guess that's why it's so frustrating that FZ isn't as refined as it could or should be. This image (1732 px x 932 px 72dpi) took a 'massive' 6 minutes to render plus another 3 or 4 minutes post in Photoshop. 10 minutes all in isn't so bad
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    Object selection

    the extra $345 to upgrade for one reason (I've had V8.6 since it came out but only just got round to using it!) it also seems pretty buggy having read some of the posts on here plus I don't see anything that would benefit me over what I have at the moment I had originally considered upgrading FZ and purchasing V-ray. However, the fact that V-ray has been developed in house by ADS has put me off as it will always lag behind other apps versions. Couple this with the complete lack of any decent tutorials (which has always been a problem compared to other 3D apps) I appreciate that ADS are a smaller company with limited resources compared to some but unfortunately it doesn't fill me with confidence if I'm to invest further into the software
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    Object selection

    I find the Isolate function essential for working on anything other than very basic scenes a few other things I've found that make life that bit more difficult (not sure if they're bugs or not) if I'm creating an object and then rotate or move the view I lose the attributes dialogue in the top left corner that tell me height and length etc. I'm just left with the XYZ coordinates. (This one's especially annoying) I find the 'escape' key doesn't work very often if I use key shortcuts for hand or rotate (so I can revert back to the tool I was using) I have key shortcuts for the 'pick' and 'pick area' tool (I chose numerals 1 and 2) - it's 50/50 whether they work or not. Tbh I don't see why there are 2 different tools anyway. 1 pick tool worked fine in V6. There are quite a few other niggles that I'm willing to accept may be more about me still trying to used to this version. I like this version and can see it's potential - it's just a shame it feels a bit rough around the edges
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    Object selection

    cheers guys yes that works, it's a pity it disables the option to select the face directly though (so you have to toggle between the two) I guess ADS had their reasons
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    Object selection

    thanks Justin looking at it again I think my problem is pretty straightforward. I cannot seem to be able to select a face by selecting 2 adjacent edges at all (like I used to in V6). I have 'face' selected and have tried Control, Shift, Alt in different combinations (I have also tried auto-pick) - the best I can do is select the segments only but not the face. Am I missing something? I can use the area/lasso to drag over the face but it's pretty clumsy and not much use in my original example. Obviously, I can select the face by clicking on it but that's no good if there's another object in front of it I'm using V8.6 and Windows 10
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    Object selection

    Hi Des the shaded face is the one I want to select. In this example, it's behind a glass screen. In previous versions I would have set the Topo level to 'face', selected 2 of the edges and the face would then be selected. I cannot do that in this case either with or without selection preview, command key or anything else because it keeps selecting the glass panel in front (even though I'm not clicking it's edges)
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