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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from AHDD Designer in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    In other news, but fitting right into this discussion:
    Affinity Designer, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Affinity Photo, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Affinity Publisher, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Fast, stable and easy software, with Apple Silicon support results in a forum with 600.000 postings, and being a serious rival for adobe, finally.
    I seriously suggest, Serif should buy AutoDesSys. Or at least team up.
    Serif would enter the windows world and 3D, also get hold onto dwg, AutoDesSys would gain insight to a modern interface, programming style and integrate extended 2d layout capabilities.
    Serif form•z 2023 would cost 99 € / $ and blow sketchup into insignificance.
     
    btw, this is serif's mission statement:
     
    We started out in 1987 developing creative software for Windows and built up a decent suite of apps over a 20-year period. But there were problems. Apart from these legacy apps being locked into Windows, they were becoming bloated, hard to maintain and the core foundation of them was not built with consideration of the latest developments in hardware.
    So, we decided to start again. We threw all that old code away and began development of the Affinity range from scratch. It was a big gamble and turned into a massive project - it took the best part of 5 years from writing the first line of code to releasing Affinity Designer, our first Affinity app, in October 2014.
    Since then we’ve not looked back. We’ve now got a full creative suite of applications covering photo editing, desktop publishing and graphic design which have won the biggest awards available in the industry and have been adopted by over a million customers worldwide.
    This success has been great, but our main focus remains on pushing the boundaries of what is possible with creative apps. We love doing what we do, and we are just getting started.
     
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from AHDD Designer in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    In other news, but fitting right into this discussion:
    Affinity Designer, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Affinity Photo, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Affinity Publisher, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Fast, stable and easy software, with Apple Silicon support results in a forum with 600.000 postings, and being a serious rival for adobe, finally.
    I seriously suggest, Serif should buy AutoDesSys. Or at least team up.
    Serif would enter the windows world and 3D, also get hold onto dwg, AutoDesSys would gain insight to a modern interface, programming style and integrate extended 2d layout capabilities.
    Serif form•z 2023 would cost 99 € / $ and blow sketchup into insignificance.
     
    btw, this is serif's mission statement:
     
    We started out in 1987 developing creative software for Windows and built up a decent suite of apps over a 20-year period. But there were problems. Apart from these legacy apps being locked into Windows, they were becoming bloated, hard to maintain and the core foundation of them was not built with consideration of the latest developments in hardware.
    So, we decided to start again. We threw all that old code away and began development of the Affinity range from scratch. It was a big gamble and turned into a massive project - it took the best part of 5 years from writing the first line of code to releasing Affinity Designer, our first Affinity app, in October 2014.
    Since then we’ve not looked back. We’ve now got a full creative suite of applications covering photo editing, desktop publishing and graphic design which have won the biggest awards available in the industry and have been adopted by over a million customers worldwide.
    This success has been great, but our main focus remains on pushing the boundaries of what is possible with creative apps. We love doing what we do, and we are just getting started.
     
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from AHDD Designer in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    In other news, but fitting right into this discussion:
    Affinity Designer, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Affinity Photo, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Affinity Publisher, on sale 50% off: 27,99 €
    Fast, stable and easy software, with Apple Silicon support results in a forum with 600.000 postings, and being a serious rival for adobe, finally.
    I seriously suggest, Serif should buy AutoDesSys. Or at least team up.
    Serif would enter the windows world and 3D, also get hold onto dwg, AutoDesSys would gain insight to a modern interface, programming style and integrate extended 2d layout capabilities.
    Serif form•z 2023 would cost 99 € / $ and blow sketchup into insignificance.
     
    btw, this is serif's mission statement:
     
    We started out in 1987 developing creative software for Windows and built up a decent suite of apps over a 20-year period. But there were problems. Apart from these legacy apps being locked into Windows, they were becoming bloated, hard to maintain and the core foundation of them was not built with consideration of the latest developments in hardware.
    So, we decided to start again. We threw all that old code away and began development of the Affinity range from scratch. It was a big gamble and turned into a massive project - it took the best part of 5 years from writing the first line of code to releasing Affinity Designer, our first Affinity app, in October 2014.
    Since then we’ve not looked back. We’ve now got a full creative suite of applications covering photo editing, desktop publishing and graphic design which have won the biggest awards available in the industry and have been adopted by over a million customers worldwide.
    This success has been great, but our main focus remains on pushing the boundaries of what is possible with creative apps. We love doing what we do, and we are just getting started.
     
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from AHDD Designer in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    To second this, look at that list, sort it by release date:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer-aided_design_software
    There are other errors in that list, but no one seems to care anyway. I can think of no reason anyone at autodessys spending half an hour at wikipedia to correct something like that.
    But this non effort policy is all over the place!
     
    Following is a short summary of my observations (mac based)
     
    on the rise:
    blender, Rhino, Bricscad, shapr3d, in 2d: all from affinity
    (in general: dedicated and active user user base, fast development, transparent as possible, first they copy, then they surpass competitors)
     
    steady:
    Cinema4d, Vectorworks, Archicad, maya, Houdini
    (loyal user base, steady development, good marketing, open communication)
     
    declining in significance:
    form•z, lightwave, cobalt, powercadd, turbocad (and many other small companies)
    (slow development, no recognisable future goals set, no transparency, rest on the laurels of the past)
     
    out of competition (in their own view):
    Autodesks products (the Microsoft of CAD, there's is an open letter going around the world), Sketchup, in 2d: adobe in general
    (these are only around anymore to make money out of their standards, as intransparent as possible, but heavily cloud- and paying plan dependent)
    This is the grave of any software development. form•z will not fall into that category, because they did not establish any standard.
     
    i am sure, loyal users will come out again with something like " you can set the palettes right for your personal taste, read the manual, other software is also flawed, you can call support, I do not mind about some icons, there is always version XY to fall back, etc etc..."
    It is embarrassing! Don't you want more new users of your "trusted software"? Does not sound like it!
    The goal should be set: als easy as Sketchup, as precise and versatile as rhino, as customisable as cinema4d, all that communicated as transparent as blender! 
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from AHDD Designer in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    So I just proved my point: 
     
    I did not point out "a few minor aesthetic issues", I basically said that UI design has BASIC NON UNDERSTANDABLE ERRORS and VERY LITTLE IMPROVEMENT in years. I would not call for support or ask for a refund, I said "I tried to be friends" with your software multiple times, but failed. That was my motivation, and that is in fact the motivation for EVERY NEW CUSTOMER, just in case you did not know. In reading your answers again, I think they sound a bit you were personally offended, for which I am sorry, but also a bit arrogant, which might be the reason in the first place I thought my initial comment was necessary.
    It is not enough to have a devoted user base, it is even more important to reach out for new customers, who like your software from the first time on they use it. If they can be convinced easily, existing users will most probably benefit as well!
    You can not deny your market share is shrinking, or can you? The difference between form•z and autoCAD is that the latter is an industry standard, so their need for active development can reach zero for quite a long time. And when they need to catch up, they acquire a competitor. This, of course, can not be a possible roadmap for AutoDesSys!
    So, Tech, although support might be great, response to specific issues might be prompt, none of that was the issue here! But your answers solidified my assumptions: continued slow evolution and no aim for a greater plan! Dark mode will not save the future of form•z at all. Nor will "a number of UI improvements" do!
    My verdict now: form•z has stuck, but not yet realized so.
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from AHDD Designer in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    This is not product bashing, this is criticism.
    I do like parts of blender, but blender is not a 3d cad design software as form•z is.
    I also like reading, even manuals and I have no problems whatsoever with form•z's help.
    My problem is that I do think that the "intention" of how to use the software is dated, ineffective and has not evolved.
    Sure, you might think otherwise, but at least you can not deny the many inaccuracies in the UI, many errors in the translations (at least in German) and the slow development at a whole. 
    As I tested the software along with writing here, my opinion did not change, it will also not change after reading the complete manual.
    The rtfm days are over, dear beta team tester for major brands.
    As I wrote in the op, I also do 3d modelling since about 1994, exactly that made me write that thread, and made others (AHDD Designer) do the same earlier.
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from snow in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    Thank you, snow!
    Trying to be constructive, I might add:
    Not only do the icons of c4d follow a strict and easily understandable colour scheme, but the toolbars are extensively customizable, groupable,  organizable. New tools can be highlighted by the developers, macros can have individual icons if needed. All Windows can be rearranged, changed in their appearance, filled with different tools etc. etc. The program colours can be adjusted to personal taste. And all these setups can even be shared (to a certain degree).
    I would not argue that all this is essential, but you put it right:
    That should not be the case with form•z, but in my opinion, it sadly is.
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from Mike_Concentric in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    Natürlich, R2D2, aber ich glaube, AutoDesSys hatte schon genügend zeit, Weichen zu stellen. Oder zumindest alles auf Hochglanz zu bringen.
     
    translated:
    above is a proverb: "It's not what you say, but how you say it."
    Sure, R2D2, but I think, AutoDesSys has had enough time to set a new course. Or at least do a fresh polish.
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    UVWXYZ got a reaction from Mike_Concentric in Why form•z is not popular any more:   
    Sure, being sarcastic helps a lot! I did not claim so.
    My feeling is that development is slow, no ui goal can be seen.
     
     
     
     
    blender is far from being the industry standard in ui design, but for me it just seems that form•z keeps only keeps rearranging the chairs on the deck.
     
     
     
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