FZnoob

If I remember correctly $3,500 was for the full blown "studio" version. I had the base package and it was about $900. from what I remember. Did everything I needed and more. It's still my favorite sub-d program. But now C4D has apparently done away with actually "owning" the software. It's available now as a monthly or yearly subscription.

I just DL the update and it still has the issue that if I resize the modeling window, my toolbar mushrooms off the page. This has been a problem since the V9 beta

Exactly

I see lots of examples of people's, work but not too many actual "tutorials".

Millions of dudes would still ask it out.

you might try emailing them at: support@formz.com probably get a faster response

If you don't want the map on one face to move, while you are adjusting one on another, make sure you have the map type set to "flat"

I stand by my assertion. This still feels like a beta version. I advised my company not to upgrade to V9 for a while and let the dust settle, but they didn't listen. Now I think they wish they had as many if us are still using V8.6.5

"Thanks so much to all you guys who are effectively beta testers" ...and who effectively paid for the privilege.

I don't see FZ as ever being more than a niche company. They just don't have the developmental or marketing dollars to compete with the big boys, and I don't think they have anything special a larger company might consider buying out. My employer dictates that I use it, and I am ok with that. It's a decent software and for the most part I can do my work. However, If I had my choice I would not be using it. I'm not being harsh it's just my honest opinion. Since I started using FZ with V7 it seems to follow the same pattern that it takes a while for them to get it sorted out. With that being said everyone stay safe and happy holidays.

When they get to V9.5 let me know. That seems to be when things are sorted. Until then I will stay with 8.5.6

I don't use V9 unless I get a model someone has created it in. It's just easier to leave it as it rather than back-save it. I do have the" select all" issue noted above, and if I resize the project window the modeling toolbar mushrooms off the page. The only is to fix it is restart the app.

I still use it for my day to day. It's fast and I end up doing lots of revisions, so it works well for that.

I would suggest contact them via email: support@formz.com

I've used a variety of 3D packages over the years. The majority of what I do is concept work. and I primarily use sub-d for product modeling. For me, C4D is the best at this. It's fast, clean, and has a lot of options that FZ lacks. But with that being said, I do find work-arounds for most of FZ's shortcomings, and I can get some pretty decent results.