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#81 Hugo

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 01:12 AM

Agree that 3D modelling works well, but my experiance about creating output, is poor. My most recent issue; in 1 3D model i had to export 1 object with dimensions as a 3D DWG. In total 12 different layers as 12 seperate DWG's. The result: 4 layers perfect, 8 layers missing the objects. And when using hiddenline, text is created in many single segments not readable at all. Not to speak about layout or getting consistent vector output in any way. My standard for WYSIWYG is Vectorworks. Probably the best graphics output in CAD. In an earlier post i mention about many little issues, as if the software is developed in a hurry.

If i only modelling and render with Maxwell, i am happy with the result. If i need all kind of other, lets say (2D) output... then... pffffff

To say something positive, 3D modelling, the way it can be done is very nice.
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Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:53 AM

I do understand the allure of these software wish lists, but I also find them somewhat unnessary. Saying “software X does this, and software Y does this, can software Z do the same?” Is like asking a chef at one restaurant to prepare your meal the way another place does it. If one software works well in certain aspects, use that software. Use a bunch of software! I know formZ’s strong points and it’s limitations so I use something else where formZ falls short.

The ONLY issue with this is finding a common file extension that works well in both programs. So I’m going to break my previously stated rule and just say that I hope formZ can solve all the import/export problems. I’ve had random problems with DWG, STEP, OBJ, FBX in the past so generally I export all 4 and see which one works best with my destination software. It’s not the most glamorous workflow but its something...

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:13 AM

Darwin, i totally agree with you. The tool should do the job... and, that could be much better.
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#84 Hugo

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:14 AM

Darwin, i totally agree with you. The tool should do the job... and, that could be better.

VANDENBOOMEN-ARCHITECTen...

 

MACOS 10.12 SIERRA | Form Z 8.5.7 | Vectorworks 2017 SP | AutoCad 2017 LT | Maxwell Render 4.1.x.x | Thea Render | Renderzone | Affinity Photo and Designer

Mac Pro late 2013 8-core 3.0Ghz 32Gb RAM, 2x FirePro D500 3GB | MacBook Pro Retina 15" mid 2014 i7 2.8Ghz 16Gb RAM, Nvidia GeForce GT 750M 2Gb+Intel Iris

Mac Pro mid 2010 12-core 3,46Ghz 96Gb RAM, SSD | Mac Mini mid 2010 2,4Ghz 2-core 16Gb RAM, Nvidia GeForce 320M 256MB | Cinema Display 27" 2560x1440 | LG 31" 4K 4096x2160


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 02:19 PM

Agree that 3D modelling works well, but my experiance about creating output, is poor. My most recent issue; in 1 3D model i had to export 1 object with dimensions as a 3D DWG. In total 12 different layers as 12 seperate DWG's. The result: 4 layers perfect, 8 layers missing the objects. And when using hiddenline, text is created in many single segments not readable at all. Not to speak about layout or getting consistent vector output in any way. My standard for WYSIWYG is Vectorworks. Probably the best graphics output in CAD. In an earlier post i mention about many little issues, as if the software is developed in a hurry.

If i only modelling and render with Maxwell, i am happy with the result. If i need all kind of other, lets say (2D) output... then... pffffff

To say something positive, 3D modelling, the way it can be done is very nice.

Hugo, were AD Support not able to help you specifically with your export problem? They normally find a way to achieve what you need and in my experience have been very responsive.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 02:50 PM

Alan,

 

have no complain about ADS support team and they always try to help. They do their job very well, as a support team. Although the errors I speak about is part of the way the software is developed. ADS support have to deal with it anyway. Last week I sent a file, as mentioned in my earlier post, not yet reaction. But it's ok for me, solved the issue myself in a different way. But, if my client insists to get the 3D DWG, I couldn't deliver.

 


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:07 PM

I'm a little disappointed to note the apparent lack of input from AutoDessys in the last couple of pages... Not that I want smoke blown up our butts just to keep us happy, but it would be nice to hear that some of these comments aren't simply dying alone in cyberspace.

 



#88 Tech

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Posted 26 July 2017 - 09:25 AM

Hi David, 

 

Sorry to hear about your disappointment.  Our lack of response is strictly because formZ 9 is still in development.  In this phase we are still determining which issues are the most imperative to address to deliver a product that will please our entire user base.  As much as we strive to include everyone's suggestion, this simply is not possible so we cannot respond to every post saying whether or not it will be included in the next version.

 

When we get closer to moving formZ 9 into the private beta or public beta stage, then we will start dishing out some more information :) 

 

In the meantime, keep your suggestions coming!  We are listening!  


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Posted 16 August 2017 - 10:12 AM

No mention of BIM, or anything related to using formz for 3d architecture



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Posted 16 August 2017 - 10:37 AM

I believe a number of our users have used formZ for architecture over the years  ;)

 

 

No mention of BIM, or anything related to using formz for 3d architecture

 


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#91 Hugo

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:05 PM

I use it more then 23 years for architecture.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:03 AM

A feature that I would find most helpful is topological cycling via shortcut and like that available in Nevercenters Silo it's simple and available. Having it accessible as an overlay within the viewport is very handy and tidy (i find formz a great tool but I've always found the UI functional but untidy )

 

The tool manager is very helpful on this front but the fact I cannot add the topological selection to it is a bit of a misstep as is a lack of pop ups for numerical input, I find I do an awful lot of unnecessary mouse tracking to get jobs done.

 

A scene states feature would also be a great addition allowing for positional and may be material iterations.

 

I use a 3dconnexion device, mouse and as little keyboard as possible.


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